Force Discussion

[taizero00]

FoBr does more against non-matching element, but only non-matching element weakpoint. FoTe gets the crown otherwise.

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ザンディオン

Don't forget this combo too XD
http://nicotter.net/watch/sm24964662

IF you wanna see more, check my channel...FO/GU is fun to play and dont have alot of problem with pp and got a survival skill too

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[Hrith]

Funny.

Making my manly dewman scream 'I'm a pretty girl' is a use for Zandeon.

It's good to use when neither Ketos Proi nor PP Convert is available, too.

[Stickboy]

Used on bal rodos when he's down, it flew in static in his mouth and currently dealt 20k per hit

What to craft on sazonde? I planned to craft swift ones for less PP use on elysion

[lnvisible]

Used on bal rodos when he's down, it flew in static in his mouth and currently dealt 20k per hit

What to craft on sazonde? I planned to craft swift ones for less PP use on elysion

Yeah, swift is generally better.

[LonelyGaruga]

Yeah, swift is generally better.

Eh, Supercharged is roughly 32% more damage at max merit. Sazonde is the only tech that does more damage uncharged with Elysion than fully charged (66% uncharged, 0.66 * 1.7 = 1.122, or 112%, full charge is 100% damage), so it's effectively a power notation of 1113, as opposed to Swift Sazonde's power of 844 (difference of 269 instead of 240 like the craft adds). Not too sure the -4 PP really helps that much compared to the extra damage, though the speed demerit on the power recipe can lead to whiffs on some bosses if you're too far away, something Swift wouldn't have to deal with.

[Z-0]

Sazonde does more damage uncharged per tick than charged even without Elysion, which is far more important than the total damage each Sazonde does when it comes to DPS. Personally, I would much more recommend power over swift. Wand with step can evade bosses so incredibly easily and still keep Sazonde ticking on your boss since it's so fast.

Also:

Isn't Zandeon stepping the fastest way to move without PP? It's the same as charge stepping except it costs no PP, so you can step indefinitely as long as you have a wand equipped and Wand Lovers activated. I'm a TA noob so I don't know about all the new steps these days though...

Deleted my last post because corrections:

Yes, this is a great use for Zandeon, thanks for suggesting it! Now, the reason I said earlier that subpalette cancelling is slower than weapon palette cancelling is because if your weapon gets sheathed when casting techs (so anything that isn't a wand or jet boots in this case, although you need wand for Zandeon), tech cancelling becomes much slower. First time I ever tested this was with Gunslash (Aiming Shot), hence why I came to that conclusion.

[Z-0]

You can't control the flying Zandeon, so it's not really that useful unfortunately. Only place I can think of is getting out of the Banther room quickly in Nab 2, since that would actually be faster, rather than having to waste time platforming.

Skipping the ramps in Area 2 of Lilipa skips the Guardiane spawns, too, so it's pointless. If you're too high, you miss the spawn (I've done it with Jet Boots Ilzonde sometimes, really annoying).

Can't think of anywhere else it could be useful...

[ReverseSeraf]

Accessing the area blocked by the huge block after you're done platforming in A1 Amd TA? I vaguely remember someone taking advantage of Jetboots to jump over it completely (no, I don't think normal double jump worked. The person had to do like a millisecond weapon switch in-between to achieve like a triple-quadruple jump). So no need to wait for the 2 El Ahdas, 2 Katargots to die.

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But then again, can't really advance to next area without pressing those two buttons after those four Darkers die. Nvm. It's dependent on what kind of strategy you'd like to employ, I suppose

[Z-0]

Don't think you can get Zandeon by that time, unless you're solo'ing or something, and then the strategy is useless, really.

That being said, I don't think it would save time if you could do it, as the person who goes over the wall with the catapult doesn't have to kill anything if you're running properly, which brings up the catapult before people get to it:

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[STNFCST]

The VH lobby players expect me to solo TD1 one tower really? Being level 45/26 Fo/Te. Not sure if they stupid or not.

But one thing I noted that they willingly to first strike(ignoring my rappy talis) so I refuse using zondeel in such sitation at best only capture 3-4 during mob travels. As standing in front burn all my pp and covering two spots.